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2012 Republican Straw Poll Favors Mike Huckabee

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Obama hasn't completed his first year in office and already a conference and polls are being taken to see who is the Republican hopeful for 2012. Well, currently the winner is Mike Huckabee (a former Baptist Minister). Well, at least it is not the Quitta from Wasilla!

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee is the favored 2012 presidential nominee among social conservatives, according to a straw poll released this afternoon.

Huckabee came in first place by a wide margin against eight other prospective nominees with 170 votes out of 597 cast over two days of balloting at the Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C.

“I think [Huckabee] was surprised and encouraged by it,” said Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council, a sponsor of the event. “He’s probably doing a lot of soul searching over whether or not he’s going to run,” he said.

There was nearly a four-way tie for second place between former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (74 votes), Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty (73 votes), former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (72 votes), and Indiana Rep. Mike Pence (71 votes).

While Palin has generally polled very high among self-described social conservatives, she was notably behind three other Republicans in the straw poll. Palin was invited to attend but did not. Perkins said her decision not to appear likely affected the result. “I think that clearly makes a difference,” he said.

Of the nine candidates on the ballot, just four spoke during the conference: Huckabee, Pawlenty, Pence, and Romney.

Further down the ballot was former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (40 votes), Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (28 votes), former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum (15 votes), Texas Rep. Ron Paul (13 votes). There were 31 “undecided” votes cast and 10 votes for persons not listed on the ballot.

About one-third of the 1,850 in attendance cast ballots in the straw poll. The results are unscientific but do provide a pulse check on where the socially conservative wing of the GOP is leaning.  Link  

The Family Research Council hosted this Values Voter conference in Washington. The FRC is another political Christian organization promoting traditional family unit and the Judeo-Christian laws. Another Morality-driven organization pushing the Bible down our throats!
Wake up everyone - can you spell THEOCRACY??!

What are the main targets of the FRC? What fight is most important to them?
Currently, just these 3 things:

Abolish Abortion
Protect Religious Liberty (actually - just the Christian religion - the other 'false' religions should not get equal protection).
Stop Gay Marriage

Because these 3 things destroys the sanctity of life:
Abortion - the sanctity of human life
Religious liberty - the sanctity of Christianity
Gay Marriage - the sanctity of holy matrimony

And all this - in the Name of God!
Well among the candidates in their polls, you have a Mormon (which Conservative Judeo-Christians sees as a cult and a repeated adulterer - which the Bible loathes in both the Old and New Testament).

Well, its still 2009. The FRC and the Neo-Conservatives can have their party and pray that 2012 comes soon.

Dear God - please Rapture these nutjobs from the Earth so that the rest of us can live in Peace!


0 # Guest 2009-09-21 06:38
the ten commandments, from wikipedia.
(if i had quoted them from the bible you may freak out)

You shall have no other gods before me
You shall not make for yourself an idol
You shall not make wrongful use of the name of your God
Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy
Honor your father and mother
You shall not murder
You shall not commit adultery
You shall not steal
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor
You shall not covet your neighbor\'s wife
You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbor

now tell me, if you lived in a city where all the people adhered to these laws, would it really be that bad?

think about it:

they practice religion. no effect on you. they may come to your door with a pamphlet. darn.

they would take it easy and be with their families on sundays. you can wait until monday to go shopping

they have respect for their parents. what\'s so bad about that?

they don\'t kill people. this is a good thing.

they don\'t cheat on their spouses, which means less chance for your significant other to be cheating on you.

they don\'t steal stuff. your stuff doesn\'t get stolen. this is good.

they don\'t lie. no one blames you for stuff you didn\'t do.

they\'re not coveting your wife, err, significant other. this is good.

they\'re not jealous of all your stuff. this makes them less likely to steal it.

would it really be so bad for you? granted, this is an idealization, but we\'re talking about the commandments here, not the people.

nowhere in the commandments does it say:

push Christianity down the atheist\'s throats.

if we were all \"raptured\" away, how peaceful do you really think it would be?

why are you so intolerant of other peoples religion?
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0 # What\'s with the 10 CommandmenGuest 2009-09-22 13:13
History and human psychology have taught us that religion of all types (even Christianity) breeds extremism and intolerance. I can equally match laws from the Torah and the Koran the Christians would never embrace.
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0 # Guest 2009-09-22 14:36
hi crissy,

your exactly right.

all forms of religion have extremists.

all forms of religion are intolerant of certain acts. that\'s the foundation of religion if you think about it, being intolerant of things that are percieved to cause the individual and/or community harm.

i never said that any one religion is better than another, nor would i ever expect to \"convert\" any of the patrons of this blog.

my point was, laws based off of the ten commandments wouldn\'t cause you any harm.
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0 # Guest 2009-09-22 14:41
*you\'re B)
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0 # Forgetting HistoryGuest 2009-09-23 18:02
my point was, laws based off of the ten commandments wouldn\'t cause you any harm.

Lame statement when history counters!
History have shown Man (believers) have twisted and mis-interpret biblical laws to what they want it to say and give them the rights to attack those they find offensive.

The Puritans followed and obey the 10 Commandments and what has history taught us about Salem.

The Seventh Day Adventist follow the 10 Commandments - but wait, aren\'t they a cult?

Judaic Laws abide by the 10 Commandments - but Jews don\'t accept Christ - they are going to eternal damnation, right?

Remember - Biblical Literalism Kills Literally
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0 # Guest 2009-09-24 05:53
Man has twisted and misinterpreted laws from any source. You atheists could say that it\'s a trait we developed through evolution.
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0 # Guest 2009-09-25 17:43
But as a Christian, I can say that the Church have taken Biblical laws and twisted them to say whatever they want. Christians are known to pick and choose what applies and what don\'t.
They have done it in our History and doing it today.
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0 # Guest 2009-09-26 07:56
ANY laws are going to be manipulated, and this is done by people from all walks of life.

Churches have been guilty of it too, I agree. It\'s a shame, an embarassment to those who follow Christianity. This is why, although I am a member of a church, I don\'t let it run my life.

It\'s not Christianity that is to blame, it\'s just human nature.
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0 # Agreed .... butGuest 2009-09-27 07:57
I agree - Man (aka. human nature, as you stated) is fallible. Man in its true essence can and will make mistakes. It is Human Nature. And Human Nature has not changed in all cultures and through the centuries.

That is why the interpretation of the Bible from its Aramaic, Greek and Hebrew can be questioned. And since Man wrote the Bible (yeah, I know the rhetoric,\"men divinely inspired by God, wrote the Bible\") - this too can be questioned.
I have known many men, women and missionaries today that testified they are inspired by God in their Daily Walk - but I could see the contradictions and hypocrisy in frequent mistakes & errors in judgments they continued to make. The statement, \"I was inspired by God\" is now just another tossed around uttered nonsense to legitimize their actions.

A Christian roommate/guitarist I had in College told me he was supremely \"inspired by God\" to write beautiful song/music. When he played several pieces for me - it really sucked! I can\'t carry a tune but listening to his song was agony to my ears. Does this mean God has absolutely no musical talent??

But back to the Gospel - these \'inspired\' men who interpreted the Bible can make mistakes. The Bible wasn\'t written by one man - it was many. And how many of them were truly \"inspired?\" In contrary, how many books from the Apocrypha were truly inspired but man dismissed it from the Bible?

Here is one great example about man\'s fallible nature: when a group of \'inspired\' men re-interpreted the Bible - this created a new Gospel - The Book of the Mormons.
Today, thanks to these \"inspired men and women\" - a new religion had emerged with millions of followers.
We also have the JWs, Christian Science, Scientology, Unification Church, etc.
Can we envision that possibly the religion that we hold near and dear to hearts today - can also be _ well, Fallible?

Our history have shown the Christian Church have misinterpreted the teachings of the Bible to make laws that are unthinkable. The ones that would fall victim to these \"Biblical laws\" are usually the ones that are weak or considered 2nd class citizens: women, children, non-white race, the Jews, and today - Gays and Transgendered.

That is why Theocracy is so dangerous in our multi-ethnic, diverse society. Separation of Church and State must be paramount!
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0 # Guest 2009-09-27 12:19
I don\'t treat anyone as a second class citizen, but I do believe in separation of church and state.

I think you and I have reached agreement.

I\'m still voting for huckabee though.
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0 # HuckabeeGuest 2009-09-27 13:10
Well, between you and me -
I\'ll vote for Huckabee over Sarah Palin anyday!
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0 # Guest 2009-09-23 18:17
What??! Laws based off the 10 commandments DO cause harm - because man interprets it to what they want it to say - and force society to follow. It is adhered to and because it is \"Gods Laws\" - it cannot change.

Its the secular society that makes the laws that can and should change and adapt to changing times.
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0 # Guest 2009-09-24 05:59
You contradicted yourself.
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0 # you\'re full of it!Guest 2009-09-23 18:38
Your 10 Commandments literally allows you to own slaves (something you conveniently left out). So your point being is, you are full of it!!

"But the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, your son or your daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the alien resident in your towns."

"You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor."

So stuff it, you have no credibility!
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0 # Guest 2009-09-24 06:08
Haha, wow. It\'s like you some how twisted and misinterpreted the law to mean that one has the right to own slaves, as opposed to the original meaning that states if you happen to have slaves, you should let them rest on Sunday.

I\'m not here to gain credibility, I\'m here to learn about todays liberal ideology. I\'m learning a lot too ;-)
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0 # Guest 2009-09-24 16:20
Laws based off of the ten commandments wouldn\'t cause you any harm

Unless you are a Slave!

Yeah - the Bible is filled with humanity.
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0 # Guest 2009-09-21 17:45
generalizing, stereotyping, and intolerance. nice.
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0 # Guest 2009-09-22 14:20
Pot 4, Kettle 5

Generalizing? Pffft! If you only knew! :D
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0 # Seriously Dude ... the DecalogGuest 2009-09-23 18:30
Seriously Dude ... preaching the Decalogue? Are you trying to plant a seed of the OT Gospel so that I would turn from my \'wicked\' ways?! Get real!
Do you also carry the 4 Spiritual Laws everywhere you go and share your faith to every Tom, Dick and Slutty Susan?!

Gee I actually know your types very well.
Preaching the Gospel and how Sin separates you from the Holy God (Romans 3:23). Blah, blah, blah!
But behind closed doors - believers would commit against half of those commandments and think nothing of it.
This is why the word Hypocrite fit the moral Christian superiors like a glove.

With Christian hypocrites, I pray that my name is removed from the Book of Life!
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0 # Oh TrollGuest 2009-09-24 02:35
Poor Troll - so lost! :Pinch:
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0 # Guest 2009-09-24 06:25

Seems like it!

Talking with people I agree with all the time is boring, but you guys are fun as hell!
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0 # troll is on a rollpeter2008 2009-09-24 12:22
Troll - you\'re a Riot!
A demented one -but still a riot!
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0 # re:Guest 2009-09-24 19:02
Seems like it!
Talking with people I agree with all the time is boring, but you guys are fun as hell!

Well - something we liberals agree with you Troll! Evangelical Conservatives are downright BORING!
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0 # Guest 2009-09-27 04:52
Chimeng chang doesn\'t think they\'re boring, he writes tons of blogs about them.
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0 # Boring ...?Guest 2009-09-27 09:54
Well, I personally wouldn\'t use the word \"boring\" to describe Conservative Evangelical Fundamentalists .
I would say they are severely repressed and ignorantly possess a superiority complex.
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0 # Guest 2009-09-27 12:15
The word \"ignorant\" is soooo 1998.
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